What must be accomplished after valve lapping?

Author: Ruby

Apr. 29, 2024

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Lapping Valves

Lapping Valves

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As I readily admit, I'm no master mechanic. I didn't take auto shop in high school, and while other guys were fixing up their 57 Chevy's, I was singing in the choir, taking advanced math, and in general being a nerd (except lettering in track). I assume many of you know more than I do about auto mechanics, and this is frequently borne out by responses to my posts to WillysTech.

But I have lapped my valves with considerable benefit, so for those of you that are unfamiliar with the process, let me explain.

My engine was running very rough. A compression test showed 90, 115, 60, 50, so basically it was running on 1 1/2 cylinders. I had adjusted the intake valves about a year before, but didn't do the exhaust valves because I didn't dare pull the exhaust manifold (on account of the badly rusted studs and nuts). Someone has since told me he adjusted his exhaust valves without pulling the manifold, but he admitted space was really tight.

I removed the head from my F4-134 to find mildly burnt valves, with the exhaust being a little worse than the intakes, as I would have expected with my neglect of them. If a valve doesn't seal tight, a small amount of hot combustion gases will escape. This high-pressure, hot gas erodes the surface of the valve and seat, leading to what is called burnt valves. Burnt valves don't seal tight, so the condition compounds itself. Looking at the beveled edge of the valves, I could see irregular dark blotches, not smooth shiny metal.

I got a lapping kit from Checker for less than $10, which consisted of a wooden stick with suction cups on each end and two tins of abrasive compound: coarse and fine. With the valve springs removed, the valves are free to come out. It takes a valve spring compressor tool to relieve tension of the springs so you can remove the clips that hold the springs to the valves.

I scraped off carbon deposits from the valves. I put a little lapping compound (about the consistency of toothpaste) on the valve surface, then put it in the head (or block for exhaust valves). I used a suction cup on the flat face of the valve and by twirling the stick between the palms of my hands, spun the valve in its seat. I used coarse first and then fine on the exhaust valves, but only fine on the intakes. I checked the surface of the valve and matching seat from time to time and repeated the process until each valve looked good.

When I got the engine back together, the compression was 112, 115, 115, 80. Number 4 cylinder has some bad scratches, perhaps made by a broken ring or a wrist pin that came out. Now I'm running on 3 1/2 cylinders. Some of the improvement could have been accomplished by a valve adjustment, but the lapping polishes the valve and seat, eliminating minor irregularities in the mating surfaces, leading to a tighter seal.

The 134 engines originally had a valve seat cut directly into the cast block. This metal is too soft and wears rapidly, especially with unleaded gas. My engine had been fitted with hardened valve seat inserts. Any machine shop can do this for you if your engine has not yet had this done. A seat insert cost about $5, but you have to cut a land in the block and press the seat in. I was glad to learn that someone had already done this on my engine.

The lapping could be done in a day, except in my case I broke a stud, then broke a screw extractor, then broke several carbide bits, and eventually put a helicoil and new stud in. I spent several days.

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Lapping valves is as old as the internal combustion engine. I've been told the owner's manual of the Model-T recommended lapping on a regular schedule, maybe once a year. A valve job at a machine shop puts a precise bevel on the valve and seat surfaces which is superior to what you can do with lapping. After you lap the valves a few times, you will have a groove in the seat which is not desirable, so you'll have to have them ground and or replaced. If a valve is seriously burnt, it must be replaced. Lapping is the least costly, least effective and easiest repair to burnt valves.

I'd guess (and this is only a guess since I haven't done it) that if you adjust your valves regularly (once a year?) and lap them when compression indicates it is necessary, you can go quite a bit longer between valve jobs.

Rick
9/10/98

what is accomplished by lapping your valves? : MGB & GT ...

In reply to a post by Vern

Thought I'd give my 2 cents.....With today's unleaded gas, hardened seats are a necessity. That said, if you, like me, are just trying to "refresh an engine" until you have the financial resources to do a full rebuild, then lapping can help keep a slightly leaking valve from "burning" to the point that it needs major work. I tore my engine apart at 79k miles and found the valve seats to be slightly pitted, but all in all in pretty good shape. I honed the cylinders and installed new standard rings, valve seals, lapped the valves, replaced main and rod bearings and oil pump and put it all back together. That was 25k miles ago and it is still running strong and oil pressure is great. Remember, these engines are 70's vintage, and you need to decide how much you really want to spend to try to bring a 30+ year old car up to today's specs. My opinion is to do what you can afford, drive it like crazy, and spend the money later, when you decide you want to do total restoration. That will include much more than the engine. Till then, "Top down, Shiny side up, Wind in the hair!" Just my humble opinion.


I did almost the same to the engine now in my GT, I installed new valves, had the seats cut and had new guides installed. I lapped the valves to make sure the seal was good. I then honed the bores, replaced the rings and the rod bearings, I did not touch the main bearings.

That was four years and many thousands of miles ago. If you are trying to keep an engine running for as long as possible for as little outlay as possible then lapping is worthwhile. However, I also realize it is not an alternative to new seats etc., you just have to know exactly what lapping does and its limitations.


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1971 MGBGT, overdrive, Limey relay and fuse kits, Rick Ingram struts all round, Jeff Schlemmer points distributor, mgccars.com alternator, Basil Adams camshaft and side cover, Eurospec tail lights, 1976 dashboard and console, 1999 Chevy cavalier seats, GM heater motor and fan with Ford 3 speed controller, Ford Merkur/Sierra parcel shelf, cruise control.

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1969 MGBGT,

I did almost the same to the engine now in my GT, I installed new valves, had the seats cut and had new guides installed. I lapped the valves to make sure the seal was good. I then honed the bores, replaced the rings and the rod bearings, I did not touch the main bearings.That was four years and many thousands of miles ago. If you are trying to keep an engine running for as long as possible for as little outlay as possible then lapping is worthwhile. However, I also realize it is not an alternative to new seats etc., you just have to know exactly what lapping does and its limitations.Nulla tenaci invia est via1971 MGBGT, overdrive, Limey relay and fuse kits, Rick Ingram struts all round, Jeff Schlemmer points distributor, mgccars.com alternator, Basil Adams camshaft and side cover, Eurospec tail lights, 1976 dashboard and console, 1999 Chevy cavalier seats, GM heater motor and fan with Ford 3 speed controller, Ford Merkur/Sierra parcel shelf, cruise control.1979 B, Olds 215 engine with 1996 Land Rover heads, Carter AFB, Camaro T5 gearbox, Limey relay kit, Rick Ingram struts all round, mgccars alternator, Jeff Schlemmer distributor with Petronix, Eurospec tail lights, cruise control, 99 Pontiac Sunfire seats.1969 MGBGT, Miata seats, late centre console, apart from that it's stock!

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